In their last programme before the summer break, the Science Busters on FM4 explore the question: "How do you successfully turn a climate emergency into a climate catastrophe."
The headliners of this episode are behavioural biologist Elisabeth Oberzaucher and professor of climate policy Reinhard Steurer. Martin Puntigam hosts the show as MC in his tried-and-tested style.
Available to listen to from 18:05 on OKFM4
